The Nature of Agnosticism Part 5
I was rereading old posts and realized I vaguely touched on miracles and religious experience. Suddenly, it dawned on me that I've neglected these concepts. I've underemphasized their importance in relation to other concepts that I've belabored in the past and I never attempted to properly define the terms. I lump these together because there appears to be a deep interrelatedness between the two. "Miracle" tends to be the interpretation of a religious experience. Likewise, religious experiences seem to always involve some alleged miracle. They are deeply interrelated concepts that are actually fundamental to persistence of belief, but also point to interesting psychological traits of religious people that seem to predispose individuals to interpret arbitrary events as miraculous, and sociological factors that enable the conditions of acceptance. When you step outside the realm of ridiculous apologetics and theology, many evangelists will testify to some religious experience in hopes of persuading you. Many down to earth conversations with believers will almost always involve some description of their religious experiences. This seems to be the most compelling force driving belief for many believers. This also implies the existence of mechanisms that predispose religious believers to look for miracles, interpret arbitrary events as miracles, and block competing interpretations of the sensory experience. This is also highly interconnected with the notion of "divine revelation" and in many instances (particularly with Abrahamic religions) prophetic experiences. All of this will be covered here. We will also cover the dialectical structure that transmits alleged religious experiences. There seems to be a narrative structure or script that is common to religious experiences independent of the, often conflicting, contents described when engaging with an interlocutor. In other words, there appears to be a role-play that religious people act out when describing their experiences to others; it's a kind of decentralized ritualism that emerges independent of any officially recognized rituals (like the eucharist for example), like a pattern of behavior unique to forms of theism. I've touched on this briefly in the past but now I think its important to investigate.
Defining Religious Experience
- Ineffability: hard to put into words.
- Noetic quality: seems to convey insight or knowledge.
- Transiency: brief; effects can linger.
- Passivity: feels “given” or “granted,” not fabricated.
- Sacredness/numinousness: awe, reverence, “otherness” (often fear-and-fascination).
- Unity or wholeness: dissolution of ego boundaries, sense of oneness.
- Timelessness/altered temporality: “eternal now,” slowed or vanished time.
- Transformative after-effects: durable changes in values, behavior, meaning.
These criteria have been influenced by William James criteria set out in his "The Varieties of Religious Experience". This phrase can be thought of as an umbrella category, often including mystical experiences, revelatory/prophetic experiences (seemingly received messages: visions, voices, scriptural illumination, specific guidance), conversion/awakening experiences (sudden reorientation of belief and life-direction), nature-mediated or aesthetic experiences (overwhelmed by beauty), and ritualistic/communal experiences (shared absorption such as chanting, liturgy, and dance). These are by no means necessary for religious experience; not all mystic experiences are revelatory, not all awakening experiences are connected to the aesthetic, not all communal experiences require sudden reorientation etc. They key point is the subject must construe them as disclosing something ultimate, it is the classification of the person having the experience which makes it such. Religious experiences often include feelings of:
- Awe and wonder (sometimes with small-self feelings)
- Peace/bliss (ananda) or fear/trembling (tremendum)
- Presence: vivid sense “someone/thing is here”
- Ego-dissolution / oceanic boundlessness
- Unity-of-opposites / paradox tolerance
- Heightened meaning and salience (everything seems significant)
- Altered time (eternal present, timelessness)
- Moral urgency (call to repent, forgive, serve)
- Certainty or self-authenticating feel (“I know this was real”)
- Attribution: Does the person explicitly ascribe the episode to God as speaker/actor?
- Content: Is there determinate guidance or truth-claim, or only presence/union?
- Scope: Is it binding just for the subject or also for a community?
- Mediation: Is it framed as direct speech/vision, or as illumination of text/event/practice?
- Principle of Credulity: If it seems to S that p (for example, “God is present”), S has prima facie reason to believe p unless there are defeaters. This treats religious experiences like other appearances, as when something simply looks red. That initial plausibility, however, is vulnerable to several familiar objections: easy-to-generate undercutters such as drugs, sleep paralysis, or temporal-lobe spikes; rebutters in the form of conflicting reports across traditions; and the charge that “seemings” in highly primed contexts are not independent evidence.
- Principle of Testimony: We are generally entitled to trust others’ sincere reports—visions, voices, miracles—absent reasons to doubt them. It is, after all, how we know most things socially. Yet once this principle is applied to religious claims, its weaknesses come into view: testimonial networks can be insular and self-confirming, authorities may have incentives, and massive inter-religious disagreement weakens the evidential force of any single tradition.
- Perceptual Analogy / Phenomenal Conservatism: This approach treats religious experiences as a kind of perception, or at least a “seeming,” of the sacred: if it seems like x to you, that is some evidence for x. The force of the analogy depends on religious experience being sufficiently like ordinary perception, and that is exactly where critics press hardest: there is no public check comparable to rulers or spectrometers, background expectations heavily shape the seeming, and similar phenomenology—such as awe or unity—occurs in clearly non-theistic contexts.
- Doxastic Practice Approach (Alston): On this view, it can be rational to trust a socially established practice—prayer, worship, and the like—that reliably produces beliefs for participants, absent undefeated reasons against it, much as we trust memory or sense perception. The difficulty is that this trust appears much less secure once competing practices are considered: plural practices yield incompatible outputs, and without some independent calibration, choosing which practice to trust begins to look circular.
- Proper-Function Externalism (Plantinga): A belief formed by cognitive faculties functioning properly in the right environment—for example, through a sensus divinitatis—can have warrant even without argument. Even if that model explains how theistic belief could be warranted, it also introduces serious vulnerabilities: “proper function” is difficult to verify publicly, the same structure can license rival claims about different deities, and the view weakens intersubjective assessment.
- Pragmatic/Jamesian Vindication (“by their fruits”): Enduring moral transformation, psychological integration, and meaning are taken as indirect confirmation that an experience or revelation connects with reality. Still, the transition from beneficial effects to truth is fragile: salutary effects do not reliably track truth, as placebos and ideologies also produce them; beneficial outcomes appear across incompatible religions and secular therapies alike; and the appeal to “fruits” can easily mask confirmation bias.
- Inference to the Best Explanation (Abduction): Here the claim is that the theistic hypothesis—God intentionally disclosed X—explains the relevant data, such as a powerful experience, its timing, or its content, better than naturalistic rivals do. But that explanatory move is contestable at nearly every step: natural explanations are often simpler, competing theologies generate different “best” explanations, and the data frequently underdetermine the conclusion.
- Coherence/Reflective Equilibrium: This method fits a putative revelation into one’s wider web of beliefs—scripture, doctrine, ethics, science—while revising elements where needed to increase overall coherence. The attraction of coherence, however, is limited by the fact that coherent worldviews can still be false, starting points differ radically across traditions, and auxiliary hypotheses can be gerrymandered to protect the system from disconfirmation.
- Communal Discernment & Tradition-Guided Criteria: On this model, communities vet revelations through tests such as the humility of the claimant, consonance with canon, fruits, longevity of effects, and external confirmations. These standards can lend structure to evaluation, but they also create predictable vulnerabilities: communities can entrench error and power, the criteria are often post hoc and tradition-relative, and dissenting or disconfirming evidence may be suppressed.
- Bayesian/Cumulative-Case Reasoning: This approach treats experiences, testimonies, historical claims, and background theism as multiple weak considerations that together raise the posterior probability that a revelation is genuine. Its promise lies in accumulation, but so do its weaknesses: priors are deeply contested, likelihoods are difficult to estimate, and biased priors or dependent data can produce a classic garbage-in-garbage-out effect.
- Scriptural Illumination/Canonical Control: Personal experiences are treated as veridical when they illuminate, cohere with, or are authenticated by a revered text or canon; revelation is recognized when it resonates with the canon’s voice. That framework, however, invites an obvious challenge: the experience is validated by a canon that itself rests on earlier experiences, while competing canons validate incompatible claims and everything depends heavily on contested hermeneutics.
- Transformational Testimony Networks: This view aggregates many apparently independent narratives of life change that converge on similar revelatory themes and infers a common cause beyond coincidence. Yet the evidential force of such convergence quickly weakens once social mechanisms are considered: testimonies may not be truly independent, publication bias favors dramatic stories, and ordinary group dynamics can explain convergence without positing a single divine cause.
- Signs and Wonders/Confirmatory Correlates: Accompanying events—healings, timely coincidences, fulfilled impressions—are weighed as external markers that a revelation is from God. Even so, these correlates are notoriously difficult to interpret: regression to the mean, placebo effects, distorted memory, and cherry-picking all inflate apparent success, while rival traditions report analogous signs that reduce their discriminative value.
To say He hath spoken to him in a dream is no more than to say he dreamed that God spake to him; which is not of force to win belief from any man that knows dreams are for the most part natural, and may proceed from former thoughts; and such dreams as that, from self-conceit, and foolish arrogance, and false opinion of a man's own goodliness, or virtue, by which he thinks he hath merited the favour of extraordinary revelation. To say he hath seen a vision, or heard a voice, is to say that he dreamed between sleeping and waking: for in such manner a man doth many times naturally take his dream for a vision, as not having well observed his own slumbering. To say he speaks by supernatural inspiration is to say he finds an ardent desire to speak, or some strong opinion of himself, for which he can allege no natural and sufficient reason.
No one will deny or dispute the power of the Almighty to make such a communication if he pleases. But admitting, for the sake of a case, that something has been revealed to a certain person, and not revealed to any other person, it is revelation to that person only. When he tells it to a second person, a second to a third, a third to a fourth, and so on, it ceases to be a revelation to all those persons. It is revelation to the first person only, and hearsay to every other, and, consequently, they are not obliged to believe it.It is a contradiction in terms and ideas to call anything a revelation that comes to us at second hand, either verbally or in writing. Revelation is necessarily limited to the first communication. After this, it is only an account of something which that person says was a revelation made to him; and though he may find himself obliged to believe it, it cannot be incumbent on me to believe it in the same manner, for it was not a revelation made to me, and I have only his word for it that it was made to him.
Even if a revelation or religious experience is genuine, no one is obligated to believe hearsay. So pretty much, the entire western religious canon is based on bad epistemology and hearsay.
Religious Experience as Bad Epistemology
- X vs. the cause of X: The raw sensation (X)—a sudden warmth during prayer, a “presence,” a rush of peace—is just the experience itself; moving from that to “God did it” conflates the data with one particular causal story. The central error here is a post hoc inference that ignores base rates and rival natural causes such as music, social contagion, expectation, or physiology. For example, someone prays for a job, later gets an offer, and treats the outcome as direct divine intervention while overlooking prior applications, networking, and an improving labor market.
- X vs. your interpretation of X: The experience (X) is the unadorned occurrence, whereas calling it “a sign from God” adds an interpretive layer supplied by one’s worldview. What goes wrong at this point is usually theory-ladenness combined with confirmation bias, since a preferred meaning is read into ambiguous data. For example, after seeing the number 777 three times in a day, a believer may interpret it as God’s guidance to change careers, while a numerologist or gambler would derive an entirely different meaning, showing that the ambiguity lies in the interpretation rather than in the experience itself.
- X vs. your perception of X: X is the event, while perception is your selective and fallible construction of it. The problem here is misperception, often amplified by apophenia and context effects. For example, in candlelit devotion a parishioner sees the Virgin Mary “in the shadows” on the wall, but under bright light it turns out to be a water stain. What changes is the perception, which reveals that the conclusion “Mary appeared” rested not on X itself but on a particular way of seeing it.
- X vs. your description of X (and its classification): X is the experience, while calling it “the Holy Spirit,” “kundalini,” or “flow” is already an act of description and classification. The mistake here is reification: treating a label or taxonomy as though it were the thing itself. For example, a sudden chest warmth at a revival may be described as “the Spirit’s fire,” while a meditator reports the same sensation as “prana rising.” Since the underlying phenomenology remains the same, the label alone cannot validate a theistic conclusion.
- X vs. the effects of X: X is the event, whereas its effects are whatever follow from it—moral renewal, sobriety, community, and so on. The error that often appears here is the pragmatic fallacy, in which usefulness is mistaken for truth. For example, a person escapes addiction after a conversion experience and concludes, “therefore God is real.” The life change may be genuine and important, but beneficial outcomes can also arise through placebo, group support, new identity, and discipline without establishing a supernatural cause.
- X vs. the context of X: X occurs within a cultural and situational frame—a revival tent, chanting, incense—but that frame is not identical to the experience. The risk here is context-driven priming and situational confounding. For example, pilgrims at a famous shrine report miracles at much higher rates than at home prayer meetings because the charged setting primes expectation, making the same internal sensations feel miraculous. That dependence on context weakens the inference to a uniquely divine cause.
- X vs. the significance of X: X is neutral as data, while “this changed my life” expresses the significance assigned to it. The associated mistake is to let affective and meaning-making biases turn personal importance into evidential weight. For example, a dream about a deceased parent may be taken as a heaven-sent message “meant just for me.” The experience may deeply matter to the dreamer, but significance does not transform private meaning into public evidence of the supernatural.
- X vs. your memory of X: X is what happened, whereas memory is a reconstruction that can drift over time. The main concern here is memory inflation, confabulation, and consistency bias. For example, a healing testimony may grow over the years from “my pain diminished after prayer” into “my bone instantly regrew.” At that point, what is being preached is evidence about recall rather than reliable evidence about the original event.
- X vs. your emotional reaction to X: X is the event, while awe, fear, or ecstasy are your responses to it. The danger here is the affect heuristic, along with the illusion that emotional certainty is equivalent to evidential strength. For example, someone standing under the Milky Way may feel overwhelming transcendence and conclude, “there must be a Creator.” The awe is real, but strong emotion can intensify conviction without improving the quality of the evidence.
- X vs. your expectations of X: X is what occurs, whereas expectation is the prior template shaping what you are prepared to see. This opens the door to expectancy effects, suggestion, and placebo dynamics. For example, at a revival where people are told they will “fall under the power,” many do; those same individuals may not do so in neutral settings. In that case, expectation has helped steer sensation and behavior, so “we fell, therefore God” reads too much into an outcome already shaped by suggestion.
- X vs. the representation of X: A testimony, icon, or verse is a representation; it is not the event itself, much less the deity itself. The confusion here is map-territory conflation, often reinforced by reification. For example, opening scripture at random and finding a verse that “speaks directly to my situation” may be treated as God’s own voice. Yet what has actually occurred is a text-selection process combined with human pattern-finding, not direct contact with the represented reality.
- X vs. the knowledge of X: X is the occurrence, while “knowledge of X” refers to your informational state regarding it, which may be partial or mistaken. The characteristic error here is the illusion of explanatory depth, in which felt familiarity is confused with justified knowledge. For example, someone may say, “I know in my heart that God was there because I felt peace.” That establishes something about their own state of mind, but not knowledge that a specific supernatural agent was present.
- X vs. alternative versions of X: X is your experience, while alternative versions reveal how the same kind of experience can be fitted into incompatible doctrines. The problem exposed here is underdetermination, since the same data support multiple hypotheses. For example, mystical union may be taken by a Christian as the indwelling Christ, by a Sufi as *fana*, and by a non-theist as nondual awareness. One phenomenology can sustain many theological stories, which means the experience alone cannot adjudicate among them.
- X vs. the structure of X: X includes the whole event, whereas its structure is the pattern or blueprint abstracted from it. The error here is to fetishize recurring form and treat it as proof of one particular cause. For example, near-death experiences often include a tunnel, a light, and a life review, but treating that shared structure as proof of a specific afterlife neglects neurophysiological accounts—such as hypoxia or temporal-parietal activity—that predict the same pattern without invoking theism.
- X vs. the purpose of X: X may occur without any purpose at all, whereas saying “this happened for a reason” adds teleology to the event. The error involved is teleological bias: projecting intention onto chance or impersonal processes. For example, surviving a crash may become “God spared me to spread His message.” But the survival event does not arrive with its own purpose tag; purpose is an interpretive overlay added afterward.
- X vs. the medium through which X is conveyed: The channel—sermon, film, music, social media—is not the same thing as the content it conveys. The problem here is medium mystification, where persuasive delivery is confused with evidential force. For example, a cinematic testimony video may move viewers to tears, and those tears may then be counted as evidence. But high production value and swelling music can shape response without improving the truth-tracking quality of the claims themselves.
- X vs. the history of X: X is a present claim or practice, while its backstory is a separate matter. The mistake here is the genetic fallacy: inferring truth from origin. For example, someone may argue, “This healing tradition traces to the apostles, therefore it is authentic.” Even if the lineage were historically accurate, provenance alone would not establish the reality of contemporary miracles; present evidential support would still be required.
- X vs. the rules governing X: Ritual rules or prayer formulas are not the same as the truth conditions of the event. The danger here is rule reification—assuming that following the correct steps guarantees a supernatural result. For example, “If we fast forty days, God must answer.” When an answer seems to come, the rule is treated as confirmed; when it does not, ad hoc explanations appear instead. Either way, the rule becomes insulated from genuine testing.
- X vs. X as part of a larger system: A single instance—such as an answered prayer—is not the same thing as the full field of outcomes to which it belongs. The error here is survivorship bias combined with base-rate neglect. For example, a community may collect and circulate dramatic “hits” as proof while ignoring countless “misses.” Focusing only on vivid successes distorts the system-level evidence.
- X vs. its cultural meaning: Cultural meanings are overlays, and they vary even when the underlying event type is similar. The associated mistake is ethnocentric projection: treating local symbolism as though it carried universal warrant. For example, a rainbow after a storm may be read in one setting as a biblical sign of covenant, in another as a bridge of spirits, and in meteorology simply as an optical phenomenon. The cultural meaning attached to the rainbow does not itself elevate it into supernatural evidence.
These distinctions don’t deny that the experiences are powerful or valuable; they show why, as evidence, conflating X with these different layers systematically inflates confidence beyond what the raw experiences can actually justify. I essentially want to argue that religious experiences, miracles, and revelation are byproducts of the inability to make one or many of these distinctions.
The Social Conditions Enabling Acceptance
I think these conflations result from some combination of unclear and wishful thinking; and are amplified by various social structures. I'll incorporate the idea of a plausibility structure to explain the believability of these sorts of claims. A plausibility structure is the social matrix within which a belief system becomes credible. Religious experience is only believable because it happens within a community that legitimates it through shared assumptions, practices, and language. Once internalized, these structures make alternative views seem unintelligible or threatening, reinforcing belief. These claims are more believable given certain background assumptions, while the structure also amplifies known cognitive biases that prime people into finding these things more acceptable than what they warrant. These act as social conditions of belief, where miracles are only persuasive within certain interpretive frameworks, essentially amplifying biases while filtering disconfirming evidence. The believability of these claims normally rests on one or many of errors in reasoning or cognitive biases. This list might not be exhaustive but common errors include:
- Anecdotal Evidence: This occurs when someone relies on personal stories or isolated cases instead of systematic evidence. In religious contexts, a single spiritual experience may be treated as proof of divine reality, even though alternative explanations remain available and no broader evidential base is offered. So, for instance, someone might say, “My aunt prayed and recovered from cancer—therefore miracles are real.”
- Narrative Fallacy: This is the tendency to impose a coherent story on events that may in fact be random or unrelated, supplying meaning and causation where neither has been established. Religious believers may therefore weave otherwise disconnected experiences into a divine narrative. For example, someone might reason, “I missed my bus, met a stranger, and got a job through them—God clearly planned it.”
- Echo Chambers: These are social settings in which people mainly encounter views that reinforce what they already believe, which can produce overconfidence and resistance to contrary evidence. In a religious community, this often means that only faith-affirming testimonies are circulated, making divine experiences seem far more universal and secure than they really are. For example, within a church group, only stories that confirm faith may be shared.
- Availability Heuristic: This is the tendency to judge what is true or common based on how easily examples come to mind rather than on their actual frequency or reliability. In religious reasoning, frequent exposure to stories of answered prayer may make miracles seem common, even when unanswered prayers or failed expectations go unmentioned. For example, hearing many vivid testimonies of healing may lead someone to conclude that miracles happen regularly.
- Social Proof Heuristic: This involves treating something as true or good simply because many other people believe it or participate in it. In religious contexts, the sheer number of believers or testimonies can be mistaken for evidence. Thus someone might argue, “Millions of people have felt God’s presence, so it must be real.”
- Motivated Reasoning: Here, reasoning is used less to discover the truth than to justify preexisting desires, commitments, or identities. People often interpret ambiguous experiences in ways that confirm what they already hope to be true. For example, a believer may interpret a coincidence as divine guidance because they want to feel chosen or reassured.
- Confirmation Bias: This is the tendency to seek out, notice, and remember evidence that supports one’s beliefs while downplaying or forgetting contrary evidence. In religious life, this can mean highlighting every prayer that seemed effective while ignoring the many that appeared unanswered. For example, someone may vividly remember each “successful” prayer but not the failures.
- Self-Serving Bias: This bias appears when people attribute positive outcomes to themselves or to divine favor, while assigning failures to outside forces. In a religious framework, success may be taken as evidence of blessing, whereas setbacks are blamed on hostile spiritual interference or external obstacles. For example, someone may say, “My success proves God blessed me; my struggles are Satan’s interference.”
- Post Hoc Fallacy: This is the error of assuming that because one event followed another, the first must have caused the second. Religious claims can easily take this form when prayer or ritual is immediately followed by some desired outcome. For example, someone may reason, “I prayed for rain and then it rained, so prayer caused it.”
- Patternicity: This is the tendency to detect meaningful patterns in random or unrelated data. Humans are naturally inclined to connect dots, even when no genuine pattern is there. In religious contexts, this can turn ordinary coincidences into signs. For example, seeing a cloud shaped like a cross may be interpreted as a divine message.
- Agenticity: This is the tendency to attribute events to intentional agents, including supernatural ones, even when natural explanations are sufficient. Rather than seeing events as impersonal or accidental, people infer agency behind them. For example, someone may conclude that a storm occurred because a deity was angry.
- Representative Heuristic: This involves judging probability by resemblance to a familiar or typical case rather than by actual likelihood. In religion, an experience may be judged divine simply because it feels similar to how divine experiences are imagined or described in tradition. For example, someone might think, “That vision felt holy, like the ones prophets describe, so it must be divine.”
- Illusory Correlation: This is the tendency to perceive a relationship between events even when no real connection has been established. In religious practice, people may come to believe that prayer reliably produces results despite inconsistent or selective evidence. For example, someone may think praying before exams always improves performance, even when the broader pattern does not support that conclusion.
- The Problem of Underdetermination: This refers to the fact that the same body of evidence can often be explained by multiple competing hypotheses, making it difficult to justify one conclusion as uniquely warranted. Religious experiences are especially vulnerable here because a single feeling or event may fit both supernatural and natural interpretations. For example, a feeling of peace could be explained as divine presence, a neurochemical reaction, or the effect of meditation.
- Bayesian Reasoning Failure: This occurs when someone neglects prior probabilities while evaluating extraordinary claims, failing to ask how likely a supernatural explanation is compared with more ordinary alternatives. As a result, unusual events may be treated as miraculous simply because they are striking. For example, someone may interpret an unlikely coincidence as a miracle without considering how many coincidences occur every day.
- Self-Identity Preservation: People often resist evidence that threatens their worldview because belief is tied not only to ideas but also to identity. When religion becomes part of the self, counterevidence can feel personally destabilizing rather than merely intellectually challenging. For example, a lifelong believer may dismiss evidence against miracles because abandoning that belief would unsettle their entire sense of self.
- Issues with Testimonial Epistemology: This arises when people trust others’ religious testimonies without sufficiently critical evaluation. Testimony is socially powerful, but its epistemic force is limited, since sincerity does not guarantee truth. For example, someone may accept a friend’s account of a vision as evidence of God simply because the friend seems honest.
Sociological Aspects of Religious Experience
The Rhetorical Function of Conversion Narratives
- Separation – The individual becomes disenchanted or estranged from their previous life or belief system. This often involves a sense of moral crisis, suffering, or existential void.
- Liminality – A period of ambiguity or searching, where the person explores alternative worldviews, meets believers, or experiences a destabilizing event. This is often described in emotional or mystical terms.
- Incorporation – The person adopts the new faith identity, receives formal recognition from the community (baptism, testimony, shahada, initiation), and reconstructs their personal story through the new interpretive lens.
- Crisis and Search: The convert recounts a period of dissatisfaction, sin, or confusion — a necessary prelude to transformation.
- Encounter and Revelation: A key turning point (a meeting, a text, a dream, or a moment of insight) signals divine or moral intervention.
- Transformation and Certainty: The new faith is portrayed as resolving prior tensions. The person gains clarity, peace, or moral purpose.
- Missionary Turn: Many narratives conclude with the convert’s new commitment to sharing their experience — converting others or testifying publicly.
Arguments for Gods Existence Based on Religious Experience
Shared Assumptions Underwriting All Variants
- Seemings Have Prima Facie Force: First-person appearances aren’t worthless; they count unless defeated.
- Some Cross-Domain Transfer is Legitimate: Methods that work in ordinary life (perception, testimony) can be cautiously extended to religious cases.
- Defeaters Matter: If strong undercutters/rebutters arise (e.g., pathology, contradiction, failed tests), the inference collapses.
- Comparative Evaluation is Possible: We can weigh theistic vs. naturalistic explanations for fit, simplicity, and discriminative power.
- Data Can Be Characterized Without Heavy Theory-Loading: It’s possible (at least in principle) to describe the experiences and outcomes neutrally enough to be evidence. (I am actually highly skeptical of this possibility)
- Some Independence Among Data Points: The cumulative case assumes the data are not wholly generated by the same underlying natural cause.
- Norms of Fair Appraisal: Both sides should count disconfirming cases, not only confirmations.
- Public/Communal Scrutiny Helps: Communities and methods can improve reliability over lone reports.
- Parsimony is a Constraint, Not a Trump: The simpler hypothesis is better ceteris paribus, but not if it sacrifices too much explanatory power.
- Objective Truth is in Play: These arguments aim at truth about reality, not merely personal meaning or usefulness.
1) Perceptual Analogy Scheme (“Experience as Seeming/Perception”)
- P1. In everyday life, if it seems to a competent, normally situated subject that X is present, that is defeasible evidence that X is present.
- P2. In a religious experience, it seems to the subject that a divine reality is present or acting.
- P3. The subject is competent and in conditions where seemings are generally reliable (alert, sober, non-manipulated).
- P4. There are no undefeated defeaters (e.g., strong naturalistic undercutters, strong contrary evidence).
- C. Therefore, probably a divine reality was present or acting.
- CQ1. Are the subject’s conditions analogous to ordinary reliable perception (no severe fatigue, drugs, coercion, or priming)?
- CQ2. Are there plausible undercutters (e.g., known neurocognitive triggers, sleep paralysis, suggestion effects)?
- CQ3. Are there rebutters (e.g., contradictory facts, failed predictions, incoherent content)?
- CQ4. Is the religious seeming sufficiently publicly calibratable (repeatable, stable across time/contexts)?
- CQ5. Do conflicting seemings across traditions (different deities/interpretations) reduce or cancel the evidential force?
- CQ6. Is there a principled way to distinguish theistic presence from intense but wholly natural awe or absorption?
2) Testimony Scheme (“Social Evidence from Many Witnesses”)
- P1. Sincere, competent testimony is a defeasible but central source of knowledge in ordinary life.
- P2. Many independent, sincere, competent people report experiences they take to be encounters with a divine reality.
- P3. The testimonial corpus is not explained by systemic bias, collusion, or strong dependency.
- P4. There are no undefeated reasons to distrust this testimony (e.g., pervasive fraud, strong incentives, strong counterevidence).
- C. Therefore, probably some people have genuinely encountered a divine reality.
- CQ1. How independent are the reports (versus social contagion, authority pressure, echo chambers)?
- CQ2. How is competence assessed (ability to detect error, differentiate pathology, resist suggestion)?
- CQ3. Is there publication/selection bias (dramatic cases overrepresented; failures underreported)?
- CQ4. How severe are cross-tradition contradictions, and how do they affect net credibility?
- CQ5. What incentives (status, belonging, power) might distort testimony?
- CQ6. Is there a credible base-rate estimate of misinterpretations, and is it high?
3) Transformative Effects Scheme (“By Their Fruits”)
- P1. Deep, stable, and morally positive transformation is more likely when a person contacts something real than when they are self-deceived.
- P2. Many religious experiences yield such transformation (enduring altruism, integrity, recovery, meaning).
- P3. Alternative explanations (placebo, therapy, community pressure, maturation) do not explain the timing, depth, and scope as well.
- C. Therefore, the best explanation is that these experiences connect with a real divine source.
- CQ1. Are transformations measured objectively and longitudinally (not just short-term uplift)?
- CQ2. Do non-religious or rival-religious pathways produce comparable transformations (parity problem)?
- CQ3. Are confounds (therapy, social support, life stage changes) adequately controlled for?
- CQ4. Do we also see harmful transformations attributed to revelation, and how are those filtered without circularity?
- CQ5. What is the justification link from “beneficial effect” to “truth of source”?
- CQ6. Could expectation effects or identity shifts fully account for the observed changes?
4) Abductive Scheme (“Inference to the Best Explanation”)
- P1. When multiple hypotheses can explain data, prefer the one with the best balance of explanatory scope, fit, and simplicity.
- P2. Theism (or “there is a divine agent”) explains the patterns in religious experiences (timeliness, guidance, targeted content, convergence) well.
- P3. Rival naturalistic hypotheses (neurocognitive, cultural-script, coincidence) do not explain the total pattern as well without extra costs.
- C. Therefore, probably a divine agent exists.
- CQ1. Are the data accurately characterized (how widespread, patterned, non-random, and independently verified)?
- CQ2. Are natural models at least as simple and wide-ranging in explanatory power?
- CQ3. Does the theistic hypothesis make discriminating predictions that could in principle go wrong?
- CQ4. How are contradictory theistic explanations adjudicated (different deities, doctrines)?
- CQ5. Is the “pattern” partly a result of case selection or after-the-fact framing?
- CQ6. Are we double-counting dependent data (e.g., testimonies shaped by a shared script)?
5) Doxastic Practice Reliability Scheme (“Trust the Mature Practice”)
- P1. It is rational to rely on socially established belief-forming practices (perception, memory, testimony) absent undefeated reasons against them.
- P2. Mature religious practices (prayer, discernment, communal testing) are socially established and internally regulated.
- P3. There are no undefeated reasons showing these practices are unreliable at forming true beliefs about a divine reality.
- C. Therefore, it is rational (for participants) to trust beliefs formed via these practices, including that God exists.
- CQ1. What track record do these practices have where outputs are externally checkable (accuracy outside religious content)?
- CQ2. With multiple mature practices yielding incompatible outputs, by what neutral criterion is reliability assigned?
- CQ3. Are internal checks independent or circular (canon validates experience that validates canon)?
- CQ4. Do peer disagreement and cognitive-science defeaters significantly reduce warrant?
- CQ5. Does “rational for insiders” license a claim to objective truth, or only internal rationality?
- CQ6. Are mechanisms in place to detect and correct error, and do they actually operate?
6) Cumulative-Case / Bayesian Aggregation Scheme
- P1. Multiple weak, partly independent indicators can jointly raise the probability of a hypothesis.
- P2. Indicators from religious experience (first-person seemings, testimonies, transformations, timely coincidences) each provide modest support for theism.
- P3. These indicators are sufficiently independent and point in the same direction.
- C. Therefore, the posterior probability of a divine reality is meaningfully raised.
- CQ1. What priors are being used, and are they defensible/not question-begging?
- CQ2. Are the indicators independent enough, or largely products of shared causes (culture, suggestion)?
- CQ3. How are likelihoods estimated (e.g., P(this experience | God) vs P(this experience | nature)) without building in the conclusion?
- CQ4. Are negative data (conflicts, failed prophecies, non-occurrences) included in the pool?
- CQ5. Is there a reference class problem—what counts as “similar” experiences for probability updating?
- CQ6. Are we overcounting anecdotes or treating low-quality reports as equal to high-quality ones?
Additional Sources to Consider
Summary of agnosticism and Religious Skepticism
Miracle Arguments
- Cameron asked about miracle claims. I answered.
- Arif Ahmed, On Miracles
- Hume Miracles
- An Argument for Atheism from Naturalism
Religious Experience
- Episode 13, Religious Experience (Part I)
- Episode 13, Religious Experience (Part II)
- Episode 13, Religious Experience (Part III)
- 10 Experiential Arguments for God: An Analysis
- Philosophical Failures of Christian Apologetics, Part 11: The Holy Spirit
- Christians And Muslims Don’t Want To Think About This
- What would convince you of God's existence?
- Bad Apologetics Ep 10 - Are Near Death Experiences Evidence of Life After Death?
- Dogmatic Materialists DESTROYED by AMAZING EVIDENCE of Pam Reynolds Near Death Experience Case
- More Near-Death Delusions and Christian Nonsense
- The Church is One Big Cosplay—And No One Wants to Admit It
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